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Name: Kissobeds
From: Kissobeds
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hi everyone. it is great site. thanks for all.
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Name: Iain Harding
From: Cambridge, UK
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Good afternoon.

I would appreciate some advice please

As a recent returner to .410 shooting - my first gun was a single barrel .410 folder - I treated myself to a very nice Remington 1100 which had performed very well for about a year but , for a variety of reasons, has not been shot for about 3 months.

Today a friend (an RFD) borrowed the gun for some clay busting and said the cases are being ejected with blown primers and torn brass (cartridges are Hull High Pheasant, 3", 19gm).

Additionally the piston and piston seal are sliding up and down the tube - almost in freefall - when the gun is tilted forward or backwards.

Would anyone have any idea what is causing this please - the cases look like pressure blow back effects?

Thanks in advance.

Admin reply: Diagnosing shotgun problems from 4000 miles away is a difficult undertaking and often thankless to boot, but I will give it a try. My first thought is has anyone cleaned this gun since it was working properly for you? A frequent problem crops up when the gas piston is installed backwards. It has a flat end and a beveled end, and it needs to be assembled in a very specific way. If you have the original instruction booklet that came with your gun, look through it and make certain the parts are all present and assembled correctly. If you do not have the factory instructions, you can google them. Also did your friend use the same cartridges that you use? Please let me know how things turn out. Marshall Williams
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Name: Jeff B
From: Blackburn
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Hi I'm looking for a 410 roll crimp. Recommendations please and where to get them in UK

In advance

Admin reply: Oops! I thought I was adding useful information for US shooters, but it appears that I also deleted the admin reply showing the UK source. My regrets. Marshall

Two US sources are: tinfo/ROLL41/!l=MM&i=RC 410

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Name: Michael Juarez
From: Saskatchewan, Canada
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I'm new to the site which I think a great. I am not sure if this has been mentioned earlier but in Layne Simpson's book Shotguns and Shotgunning (Krause Publications, 2003), Chapter 15, Hunting with the .410, has excellent information (similar to Marshals article, 1983) about using more open chokes, limiting range, reloading and the effective patterns that can be gotten from each type of choke. This would be a good addition to your resources page.

Admin reply: Thanks. A good idea. Marshall
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Name: Steven Hill
From: Northern Illinois USA
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I always thought "High Phesant " referred to expensive British shooting schools where clay pigeons came at you at elevations up to 40 yards over your head . I've only been at Heathrow for 3 hours so i probably don't know what I'm talking about. What I want to write about is the cost of .410 shells {2 1/2 " } At Walmart, 25 Remington express were priced at $ 15.99 for 25. .410 revolvers are very popular as I mentioned a year ago. If you shoot a lot of .410 it pays to buy a Mec Jr reloader which does a great job on 2 1/2 and 3 inch shells. I use 13 grains of Alliant {Hercules} powder and 1/2 ounce of 7 1/2 or 8 shot.Within 25 yards or less it humanly kills rabbit or pheasant. Squirrels have tough hides so I don't like to use a .410 even within that range. I live in arural area that still has lots of rough land and supports plenty of game.

Admin reply: Reloading is the only practical way to do much shooting with a .410, This has not always been the case, and well into the 1990s in the US .410s were cheaper than 20 gauge shells. That changed and suddenly 20 gauge shells cost as much as 12 gauge shells, and .410s became as expensive as 28s. Recently reloading the 12s and 20s has been somewhat slow in the US as one can buy good quality “white box” target loads from the major US makers for only a little more than the cost of reloading them. The small bores are a different matter. One can reload a box of .410s for less than $4, and save between $5 and $10+ per box. With the small bores, and especially with the .410, the single stage loaders give fewer problems than the progressive reloaders. Thanks for the comment. Marshall
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Name: Paul Minost
From: Sussex
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I am a bit puzzled about the marketing strategy and research carried out by some cartridge manufacturers. Recently, Hull Cartridge, a very good quality and well respected loader of cartridges launched their ".410 High Pheasant" available only in number 6 shot with plastic wad. to me this is sadly completely useless. I cannot use plastic wads when game shooting, and #6 shot is larger than allowed on most clay shooting grounds. I wonder what that load was designed for ! Am I missing something ?
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Name: Dan Rogers
From: Connecticut
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I hope this email comes to the attention of Marshall Williams who wrote an article on small bore Wingmasters in Shotgun Sports 2007. In that article, there is a picture of a 28ga and three chokes. The chokes are threaded from the muzzle back. I'm trying to locate the same style choke for a 20ga Wingmaster and not having much luck. I'd appreciate any help. Thanks, DR

Admin reply: Hi Dan, The chokes shown in the 870 review are Remington factory original choke tubes. They can be ordered directly from Remington. The web page with the chokes is located at the site shown below. Just scroll through. Choke tubes can be found at Hope this helps. Marshall
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Name: Peter Filipsson
From: Sweden
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I have to say i love this page. It's very informative and fun.
However, i live in Sweden and finding ammunition is very hard so you have to load your own. But it's difficult to find data for powders that we have in Sweden. But we do have vihtavuori N-110 which is similar to lil gun and N-130 which is similar to alliant 410. If there is any chance any one has any loaddata with these powders i would be most grateful.
Best wishes to all fourtenners!

Admin reply: Hi Peter, Thanks for your question. I was unaware that Vihtavuori did not provide reloading data for shotguns. I have located a shooter in Finland who reloads .410s with Vihtavuori 110 and will provide you the data in a private email. Thanks again. Marshall Williams
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Name: Michael Carr
From: Southern England
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Am I the only person having operational difficulties with Eley Extra Long 410 cartridges? The metal heads detach leaving the plastic tube in the chamber.
I was at a Simulated Driven Game event doing reall well when this happened.
I have fired more. Than a quarter of a million cartridges since I retired, 60000 of which were 410. Some 40000were Fiocchi magnums which never caused any problems. Having had guns for 65 years I do realise that guns get hot BUT there is no excuse whatsoever for cartridges to come apart.
The Eley shells break targets brilliantly but if they disable the gun. The recent difficulty took the shine of a brilliant day.
No point even trying them In a semi auto. Even when stone cold the second or third cartridge will fall apart

Admin reply: Hi Michael, Since you bring it up, I had a terrible time with them at the World Championships way back when. (2001?) My experience was so bad that Tim Witherspoon let me shoot his Fiocchis. Most problems were case heads expanding and lodging so firmly in the chamber of a Beretta OU, that the heads pulled off when I opened the gun. Also had some shells fired with very low report. Worst individual cartridge fired and the shot cleared the barrel, but the wad did not clear the case. Most unusual. Marshall
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Name: Andy
From: Australia
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Trying to identify a break open double barrel pistol given to me by my great grandfather, he called it a "rat gun" for obvious reasons.

Has "1880" inscribed on the side of the mechanism, online research leads me to believe it's a .410, Belgian made, possibly quite rare.

Most similar image I can fine is here: lc1M4hqnyk35rtlbYKfvt2O8G-rBIW325MeKJpw

Let me know if someone here has some expertise in thirst? I'll forward photos of the firearm in my possession.

Note: local police firearms licensing officers have advised I can keep it in my possession legally without a permit.



Admin reply: I have an Australian friend who was originally a Kiwi, and he calls guns like yours "kea guns." Apparently New Zealanders used them to shoot keas to prevent their sheep killing ways. I have emailed your question to him to see whether he has additional information. Belgian gun makers often are very difficult to identify as many did not mark their guns. To add a tidbit of Australian trivia on such guns, in one episode of the Australian mystery series "Miss Fisher's Murders," Miss Fisher breaks into a bordelo and the madam menaces her with a gun very like this one. Such guns are useful, however, both as shotguns and as close range handguns with ball or slug ammunition. If you glance over the ALOOF, etc. articles in the first page menu, you will find a few bits on the use of .410 shot pistols.
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